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Cloud Is The New Mainframe: Episode 5 of 5

November 13, 2019
July 15, 2020

Video with Astadia, CTO, Steve Steuart & Micro Focus Government Solutions, Chief Technologist,  Kevin Hansen

Video Transcription:

Kevin Hanson:
So Steve, in our agencies in the federal government, obviously, we have some very large competing environments around the mainframe. So, maybe you could speak to some of the challenges with the scale of these.

Steve Steuart:
Right. I mean, I ran into meetings where, "I have a 300,000 MIP machine and no cloud is going to be able to run it." And I go, "Do you have 300,000 MIPS in one single LPAR?" "No." Okay. Just like how do you eat an elephant? One bite at a time. We're going to tackle it with one LPAR at a time. And you can run, I mean, I have prospects right now that are in a 300,000 MIP range. The capacity is there, it can handle it. And so, that's how you tackle that. You plan for it. You look at that and start mapping that over. And the cloud can definitely handle a large scale mainframe.

Kevin Hanson:
Yeah. And certainly following a pragmatic approach, you're making incremental progress with tooling, with applications. You mentioned LPARs, maybe buy LPAR processes. So, it's incremental and you build on that. So, it's not an all monolithic thing.

Steve Steuart:
That's correct. If you plan it correctly, which is part of the tool we use in Enterprise Analyzer to make sure all the connectivities and everything's [inaudible 00:01:15]. You could take one LPAR, bring it down, so it communicates to the mainframe. Enterprise server allows me to run [CICS 00:01:21] transactions wherever I want. I do CICS to CICS, doesn't even know where it's at. It could be in the cloud.

Steve Steuart:
But also you got to think about that you have the connectivity to the cloud. Don't do chatty apps, right? If you do a very chatty app to the cloud, you're going to have latency issues. Our experts at looking at what is a logical move for each one. But, I can tell you, the 300,000 MIP machines to the 10,000 MIP machines, the process is the same. And we haven't seen any issues.

Steve Steuart:
I just read somewhere that quantum computers can be in the cloud. So compute is going to be there. The cloud is got SSD and these chips that are made are mainly for... You have the gaming kids that want the faster video processors. You got AI, and genome research and weather forecasting consuming a lot of compute. That's available in the cloud. That far exceeds the need of a COBOL transaction.

Kevin Hanson:
Yeah. Obviously, there's a lot of applications in the cloud that run high availability worldwide.

Steve Steuart:
High availability. Yeah. Supporting the war fighter in the theater of war. I mean, there's some really, not mission critical, life critical applications are running in the cloud. So yeah, we can run your COBOL in the cloud.

Kevin Hanson:
Excellent.

Steve Steuart:
In closing, a call to action. I'll just recap. It's not bleeding edge. The cloud has been around for 10 years now, if not more. Right? And it gets better every year. The cloud has the ability to meet and exceed the requirements. It's already been hundreds of customers already migrated a lot of these applications. And now you can take a lot of your applications and put them into the cloud, and run those and rejuvenating your applications.

Steve Steuart:
What we normally do is we have a half day session, a cloud readiness and mapping strategy. We work with Micro Focus, we come in to the agency. Click on the link and set up an appointment for that. And then we'll come in and see how ready you are to go to the cloud. Not everybody is, but you'd be surprised how many are.

Kevin Hanson:
Yeah. So, for those of you like to talk to us, just click on the link below and we can be happy to set up a half day practice session where we go through your requirements and your challenges.

Steve Steuart:
Yeah. So, thanks a lot for the session today. Hopefully it was good information for all the agencies and folks from the government out there. This is real. The water is fine. Cloud is great. Let's go.

Kevin Hanson:
Yeah. Thank you, Steve.

Steve Steuart:
All right, no problem.

Kevin Hanson:
And thank you to the audience out there viewing us. And if you haven't already, don't forget to visit the microfocus.com/cobol-60 link below. Thank you.

Steve Steuart

Global Head of Mainframe Migration and Modernization
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